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Awsome course!

Posted By: Jason Marchiafava Date: 1/19/8 - 20:40:08

I have been facinated with watches my whole life. I use to tinker with old,broken,watch movements as a child in my fathers store. Basically just destroying them. I never new how to get watch training so I settled on becoming a hand engraver (which I do currently as a profession).

I have to say this is a dream come true for me. As soon as I recieved my password I read the whole course twice.I recieved my toolkit and movement yesterday. After work I stayed up and completed the whole course. Then took apart 2 other watches I had laying around LOL! I used the ETA 6497-1 movement. Everything went well with the exception of shooting a U shaped spring from the keyless works. Never to be seen again, but after completion I got it to wind without it and it seems to run very well. The Second watch I disassembled and reassembled was an old "Zodiac" 17 jewel movement. Went well without any problems. The third was a 1 jewel brass movement which I have no idea how it ever ran in the first place. It was tricky but eventually went together. It runs a bit fast but I'm just happy they all run at all!

All the steps in the course were very clear and well written. The pictures complimented them perfectly. This was really the key to my sucess in this course. Thank you Machiel Kalf and everyone else who is involved with this program. You guys are awsome and I'm very greateful for stumbling across TZ watch school. I would highly recomend this course to anyone.

Thank you Soooo much for a great expierience! I cant wait to do level 2.

Date: 8/25/8 - 10:07:27 Posted By: Machiel Kalf Date: 7/16/8 - 12:18:42
In Response To: Re: Peg Wood Question (Will)
Hello,
Yes, Will is right. The strength is important. But it is important that you can cut a very sharp point for using it in small holes. Another point is that the real pegwood has a little bit oily structure. What makes that it works perfect. It is important that if you use it in a pierced jewel that the point is not round. The function is that it "cut out" the old oil residue. Thanks for the question!
Machiel.

Finished !
Posted By: Trond Sørensen Date: 7/13/6 - 15:52:47

Yes, I finished the assembly of the ETA 2836-2. Compared to the Tissot 2451, this was challenging. And, yes, it runs and no part missing :-) I lost one of the Novadiac springs during disassembly, but found it again. The hardest part during assembly was oiling. I’m still not sure there is enough oil everywhere. When I started disassembly, I could clearly se oil on the jewels through the 10X loupe. But when I assembled it and oiled it following the oil amounts described in the course material, it didn’t show through the loupe. So I just left it as it was. The course clearly states that less is better. I also had a struggle trying to fit those Novadiac springs. First I tried using tweezers and a flat rod of pegwood. After a minute I understood it would be close to impossible trying to get the tree protruding parts of the spring under the tree lips using two tools. Since I only got two arms I decided to try our teacher’s second advice. I found a piece of plastic rod and made it fit the inner diameter of the spring lips. Then I drilled a concave recess at the end and used the rod to turn the spring. I was amazed how well it worked. No more worries with Novadiac springs. Now I have wound the movement to se if it still runs in the morning. I still have the timing part of the course and casing left to do.

This whole lvl2 course have been a pleasant experience for me and I’m really inspired to start working on the other watches I have got since starting here at TimeZone.

Date: 7/13/8 - 01:29:21
I'm in the middle of the level one course and am very pleased with the course and with learning a new skill.
I have one question though...
For magnification I'm using the optivisor 10 and the accessory magnifier, as opposed to a loupe. This seems most comfortable, since I wear reading glasses.
I am wondering if there is a magnifier that has a longer working distance at these same magnification levels? When using the optivisor it is a challenge to get enough space between my eyes and the movement to properly use a screwdriver. This necessitates viewing the movement at a greater than desired angle.
Please let me know if such a magnifier is available, as it would be a good addition to my toolbox.
thanks...Kevin

In Response To: magnification visors (Kevin Sanders)
Kevin, I feel your pain. I also am using a visor but it has its limitations for my old eyes. I looked online for medical binoculars of the type that surgeons use. They are about $900 USD new. Yikes! They are very customizable e.g. magnification and focal length, but for me, too expensive. Maybe I can find some used ones somewhere. If you find a good alternative, please let me know.
Stan

Date: 7/9/8 - 14:26:20
I'm a new student in Level 1 and just completed my disassembly of the ETA 2801-2. The instructions and the illustrated glossary of watch parts were really helpful, especially the photos accompanying the instructions. (Thanks too to the person who recommended the Home Depot magnetic pickup tool. I haven't had to use it yet, but sure do see its value.)
This is my first attempt at disassembly/assembly and I'm anxious to start the reassembly process (although I suspect it will be much difficult. I've have a dozen or so everyday watches and just recently started the process of looking at some better watches -- My first purchase was a 1927 Bulova with a skeleton back (the back of the case opens to expose the skeleton). I've also got a Doxa antimagnetique and an Omega DeVille Co-Axial Power Reserve Stainless Steel Automatic 4532.50.

Date: 7/2/8 - 14:13:51
I'm pleased to say that the 2801 is now re-assembled and working.
As an exercise to fully understand the power flow and gear train of the movement I decided to work out all the gear ratios. Starting at the escapement end, on the basis of 28800 bph, I determined that the escape wheel revolves once per 5 seconds. Then having counted the leaves and teeth of the various wheels to obtain the gear ratios I found that everything fitted together well with the second hand revolving once per minute, the minute hand once per hour and the hour hand once per 12 hours. (Initially I had a result of the hour hand rotating once per 16 hrs - a bit worrying - but I'd miscounted the leaves of the cannon pinion)
During this a question occurred to me: With larger movements such as pocket watches the wheels are, presumably, larger. Is it usual for the number of teeth to increase in number for larger wheels or do they increase in size? Obviously the gear ratios must remain the same.
There is one thing that worries me about disassembling watches in the future and that is keeping track of the parts and knowing which way to re-assemble them. Obviously this will get easier with experience but I would hate to disassemble a watch and then be unable to re-assemble it. Do you have any 'tricks of the trade' or advice about this?
I found level 1 very enjoyable, the course has been excellently written and photographed, will Walt Odets someday publish it in the form of a book?
As soon as the extra tools etc. arrive I shall make a start on level 2.
Thanks for answering my questions, I'm sure that I'll have more when it comes to level 2.
Best Regards Rod

Re: Tools you wish you'd bought: Level 1
Posted By: Will
Date: 6/7/8 - 11:06:16
In Response To: Tools you wish you'd bought: Level 1 (Cliff)
Probably the biggest think lacking in the Level I toolkit (and not really needed) are case and strap/bracelet tools. If you haven't already you might want to checkout the About Tool Kits page.

Date: 6/7/8 - 14:55:55
In Response To: Tools you wish you'd bought: Level 1 (Cliff)
Hi Cliff,
What a interesting question. I feel i can add some of my own experience here. My first order was not limited at the level 1 Tools. I also bought a cheap case opener, a cheap bracelet pin remover and a lot more Tweezer than they suggest. The case opener so cheap that i had to use a file on the pin and it still scratch my watch. The pin remover is now a toy for my 2 year old, I bought another one.
But even, the thing that i miss most after the course is the Bergeon hand remover(presto #1). Removing hand, for me, is the most delicate action, using tweezer may scratch the hand or torn them. Those hand will be in your face everyday.
If you plan to work on "real" watch not just movement I recommend Bergeon #30636-1(or 30669-4, 30670-6) don't forget the small and inexpensive dial protector #6938
Hope this help.

Level 1 Comments
Hi Everyone -
I just finished disassembling and reassembling my Certina ETA2750. I was probably too heavy handed with the pieces, and didn't clean things enough, but the movement works. Practice makes perfect.
It's a nice sense of accomplishment. Something I took apart, actually went back together! With no missing parts! What a change.

The lessons were excellent. Very well written and complete. I had some problems between the photos of the movement in the lessons, and my movement, but with ofrei.com's great pictures, I was able to figure it out.

I think I'm going to disassemble and reassemble my movement again. I need practice remembering the names of everything and having a lighter touch.
Now I need to convince my wife to let my buy a CNC machine, a lathe, CAD programs, drafting lessons, etc. so I can build a watch completely from scratch.

Thanks again, this was a lot of fun!
- Corey

Date: 4/20/8 - 21:49:13
Completed Level 1 today, and cased the watch. I truly enjoyed the experience, and want to move on to level 2 ASAP. I feel lucky that I only dropped one screw during the process, and I was able to find it with a magnet pretty easily.
The only question I have is about regulation. I know that the regulation can be adjusted using the regulator, but how? Is it just a friction fit that is adjusted by nudging the index pointer?
Thanks
Steve

Fortunately since I do a little pen repair work (strictly junkers) I had a nice little work area: Here are some things I learned: 1) Although I will most likely do the level 2 course, and maybe dabble a little with junkers, this is definitely not the line of work for me!
2) Buy a nice hood, the eyepieces are horrible to try to do most of the work with, a hood makes it SOOOOOOO much easier. I did mine with 95% hood, 5% 10x loupe.
3) The white mat you see in the photo above is from Walmart, a nice little kitchen drawer liner. Best investment ever! It was about $5, is tacky on both sides so it does not slip and parts do not bounce or roll. If you do not have one, buy one immediately!
4) I was a little put off at not having a few things, the plastic crown piece would have been nice, a tool for the hands would make that easier, and I was a little miffed that the black face that came with my kit had no date window so I could not use it! Also, a screwball would be a welcome addition to the base kit (I did have the forethought to get one with mine, cant imagine not having it).
5) I think there should be a number 0 course, how to change bands and bracelets (complete with tools to replace and change links), snap back cases (with a case knife and press to put them back on), polishing crystals, bracelets, cases, etc (with some tools for that). This course could have a cheap snap back case quartz watch with a strap and bracelet.
6) I would also like to see a level 3 course with maybe a chronograph we could make.
Overall the course was nice, the documentation good (I printed it all out to take to my workbench and to have as a reference), and the tools provided were fine. I really did not have too much trouble with it, although that should not be read that it was easy, it was not. But having this thing on my wrist ticking away makes it all worth it. And interestingly enough, this watch will give me something no $30,000 watch could, the feeling of accomplishment knowing I built this watch, me, personally, with my own two hands!
Allan

School
Posted By: Joe
Date: 11/21/7 - 14:37:26
Hey guys and gals just thought I'd let you know that a year or so ago I found your web site and enrolled in you starter class. This got my interest going to the point that I enrolled in a Horology school and am in the advanced section of the course now and have a job lined up. Thanks for the start and the ills. on this web site are great! Joe

6497-1 Assembled and running
Posted By: irwin Date: 11/11/6 - 13:27:10

Will, Machiel, Andy, Thank you for all your contributions. I can report success. The movement is now assembled and running. I took it apart again and found one of the jewel springs that went astray lying in amongst the wheels and that was the reason the movement didn't start. It has been a good learning experience and introduction to the black arts of watch repair. Many thanks for all your help.

Finished and a BIG thank you.

Posted By: Rod Fletcher Date: 9/24/8 - 11:08:58
Hello everyone.
I'm sorry to say that I've now finally finished. I say sorry because these courses (levels 1 and 2) have been the most enjoyable thing I've done in the last 10 years and it's a shame it is over. However I'm now 'flying solo' and will no doubt learn from the many mistakes I'm bound to make.
A big thanks to all concerned with the course, especially Walt Odets and of course Machiel who has always responded to my questions quickly and fully.
The 2836, which has no case, is now re-assembled and regulated. It required a new day corrector, new mainspring, mainspring barrel and arbor. I used Fixodrop on the escape wheel, the impact surface of the pallet jewels and the shock assembly jewels. After re-assembling, running for 24 hours and then re-winding the readings on a TYMC MTG400A were:
CH +34s/d 245deg 0.2ms 6H +31s/d 226deg 0.2ms 9H +37s/d 272deg 0.1ms 3H +36s/d 221deg 0.1ms FH +30s/d 215deg 0.0ms I managed to improve this to the following:
CH +5s/d 297deg 0.0ms 6H -0s/d 276deg 0.0ms 9H +1/d 273deg 0.2ms 3H +2s/d 271deg 0.0ms FH +2s/d 288deg 0.0ms The 2801 is also re-assembled and re-cased. With this one I regulated it at a half wound state and eventually obtained the following: CH +1s/d 286deg 0.1ms 6H -3s/d 272deg 0.0ms 9H +2s/d 273deg 0.3ms 3H -4s/d 271deg 0.1ms FH +1s/d 288deg 0.0ms
In the 'Theory of Horology' book it says that the working position of a wristwatch is 8 o'clock up and inclined 30deg. (page 158) as wristwatches spend most of their time in this position. However I decided to use 6 o'clock up and inclined about 40deg for the working position in which I adjusted it, as near as possible, to 0s/d, an adequate amplitude, and 0.0ms beat error. This position is how the watch will spend most of the day on the wrist of someone working at a computer, as I do. After wearing it for a normal 24 hours of use, being wound in the morning and not worn in bed, it has gained 3.5s. On the second day the gain was the same. I'm very happy with that and will not try to improve it. The old saying applies: "If it works, don't fix it".
My next project is my grandfather's JW Benson which has not been serviced since 1994. The movement doesn't have a movable stud carrier but otherwise looks fairly straight forward. However I'm sure to be asking for advice on the TZ Watchmaking and Repair forum sometime soon.
Once again please accept my thanks to all concerned with the course, it's been great.
Best Regards Rod

Finished for good
Posted By: Alex Mauron Date: 8/3/8 - 12:59:35
Hi Machiel, I have now finished my second run through the level 2 lessons, this time with two 2824-based watches. I have been thoroughly hooked to watchmaking and just started taking a watchmaking class designed for amateurs (and finding the first lessons quite easy thanks to the TZ school and to you!). I guess I will have more questions about my next projects but post them on the TZ watchmaking forum. Best wishes, Alex

Hi Machiel, I have now finished my second run through the level 2 lessons, this time with two 2824-based watches. I have been thoroughly hooked to watchmaking and just started taking a watchmaking class designed for amateurs (and finding the first lessons quite easy thanks to the TZ school and to you!). I guess I will have more questions about my next projects but post them on the TZ watchmaking forum. Best wishes, Alex

Another Testimonial...
(long!) Posted By: Dave N Date: 5/15/8 - 12:12:20
Well - another satisfied customer!
I'd just like to say a big thank you to Michael and all involved in putting this course together. I started the course in December '07, without having a clue about what went on behind the back of a watch, but with a mechanical aptitude, and a good degree of enthusiasm!
I completed level 2 in January - pics below
I've since serviced or repaired another 8 watches (it's amazing how many people have mechanical watches tucked-away that need fixing) some for friends and family, others from ebay. Only one 'casualty' so far which was a £5 ebay job!
But this is the one that motivated me to learn...
Back in the late 1970's when I was about 9 years old, I was at the beach with my family. Another man and his kids who had been digging for cockles got cut off on a sandbar by the incoming tide, and swept off their feet by the strong current. The kids swam to safety, by the man couldn't swim and was drowning. So my father waded in and swam him to the shore (he was a lifegaurd at our local pool). The chap was clearly very embarrased, and after saying thanks, slipped away.
Unfortunately my father's Seastar was clearly no longer waterproof, and took in a few drops of seawater. The local jeweler and watchmaker told him it was unrepairable - and so it sat in a drawer for the next 30 years (and my father moved on to a series of 'disposable' quartz watches).
Anyhow, a canon pinion, center wheel, and fourth wheel later, and after much cleaning, it is now once again keeping good time.
I could have had the dial restored too, but as it stands, it kind of tells a story.
I was able to give it back to my father for his 75th birthday.
Done.... for now
Posted By: Alex Mauron
Date: 3/27/8 - 08:43:05 Well, there it is: the 2836 is assembled, lubricated, cased and regulated. Following the example of other students, here are a few comments on my experience with the TZ school level 2:
- Following Machiel’s advice in an earlier exchange, I used refined petroleum (“benzine rectifiée”) to clean the parts. It seems quite sufficient for cleaning a new movement and I guess I will use it also on “new old stock” movements that have been stored but never built-in. Petroleum is less obnoxious to use indoors than the watch-cleaning solutions needed for more intense cleaning jobs.
- I learned the hard way that things can go wrong until the very end of a watch-building project. After TZ level 1, I did a second 2801-based watch, which I messed-up when setting the hands. Pressing too hard on the seconds hand displaced the seconds wheel jewel and I don’t know how to go about fixing that. So for fitting hands, I now use a Bergeon no. 5409 movement holder, a contraption with an “elastic” platform that provides support to the center jewel whenever you press on it with more than minimal force.
- I found the use of a dissecting binocular microscope (20x magnification) invaluable to check the work at every step. I never got the hang of using the 10x loupe.
- Finally, I ended up buying a relatively inexpensive timing machine (A&F “Watch Wizard”) because it seems too frustrating to go to the end of the project without doing an accurate timing job.
Short of designing a level 3 course (a major endeavour, I do realize), I think that some improvement could be made to lesson 2.8. as regards regulation. One issue that could be covered in more detail is correcting hairsprings that have a non-ideal shape. One example is given in the lesson but is not really obvious what corrective action was taken and why. This issue could be expanded, not necessarily with real photographs, but with a series of drawings showing the typical cases and the correction procedure and its rationale. Again many thanks to Machiel and Will for excellent advice and to all the participants in the forum for interesting questions and comments. I plan to redo the level 2 lessons with the 2824 movement.
Alex
Hi!
Project Nautical has lost less than 1 second over three days. Watch has been stored dial up and worn 3/4 hours daily in 90 degree heat and 65 % humidity. It's actually more accurate than my daily wear which is an Omega Deville Cronometer.
Very impressive for a $108.00 movement. It will never earn an COSC certificate, but it's been fun to work with and wear.
Next creation:
Commando: 2801 with black dial, Rolex type hands and carbon fiber mesh strap. Details to follow! Jim

done!
Posted By: Bruce Date: 12/6/7 - 22:31:28
Got everything together and cased running strong. I don't have a timer but after 24hrs it is 9 seconds off from the quartz watch I syncronized it with. Thank you guys for a great course! And of course all the help! I have a couple questions.. is there going to be a part 3? I saw mention of it a few times, if not any suggestions for the next step? (I am getting De Carle's book). Also I bought the tool kits for lesson 1 and 2. What would you recommend as the next purchase (this is going to be a hobby, I would like to restore some pocket watches, I have a 1881 key wind that needs to be cleaned and lubricated as well as some work on the case)

Completed Level 2 project (photo) Posted By: sam Date: 6/6/7 - 11:57:42 http://masterengraver.com/watches/IMG_6349-sm.jpg

I have to say that I really enjoyed the TZ Watch School lessons. Here's a photo of my completed project which I engraved. The steel was pretty tough but engravable. I spent quite a bit of time resharpening my tools. I plan to do more as time permits. / ~Sam

Level 2 Finished and Running
Posted By: Mark LeWright Date: 5/30/7 - 05:01:46
Whew, that was certainly more intensive than level 1. Though I did lose the circlip that holds the day ring in place. Go figure, the last part to install and it goes flying! I also lost one of the cap jewels so I stole one off of my 2801. I believe that the jewel assemblies are the same (any thoughts on this?). Anyway, it seems to be running fine (sans day ring, of course) and seems to be ok so far. By the way, can the 2836 be run without the date ring and still be fine? It doesn't seem like it should make any difference. I just finished a few moments ago so it still remains to be checked for regulation. As soon as I get that done I'll get it together into a case and take some pics. In the mean time I'll have to make another trip down to Otto Frei for some replacement parts to get everything back together as it should be.
Mark.

Finally cased my level-2 movement
Posted By: Patrick Date: 8/24/6 - 13:50:39
Hi,
after many, many times disassembly/assembly of the 2836-2 I decided to case it and move on to other movements. Nothing specially about this one. I broke the mainspring once and had to replace it, and as Bob was out of stock of the cases with sapphire crystals I did buy seperate sapphires and had the experience of installing them. From the wear-marks you can see that I have used it as daily wear-watch for the last three weeks. It has settled on +1 sec/day, and I think this is exellent (one minute a month has to be good!). I think I an going to do a couple of 2824 and then I am building up curage to try a chronograph. Probably going to brake it so I am looking for a not to expencive one :-)
Regards Patrick

Posted By: Will
Date: 8/4/6 - 13:27:20 I took a timeout from the course lesson plan to clean and lubricate my Level 1 movement, an Old Bulova (as reported earlier), a pin-lever Ingersol (Yes Machael I know that it isn't a fine watch but despite the lack of jewels it is pretty much the same thing right down to the incabloc mounted steel bushing and cap for the balance staff), and an A Shield 1187 (which was in pretty rough shape but it did get it to run again.)
With all that I finally felt confident enough to tackle the ETA 2836-2. And I did manage to finish without losing or breaking anything (although a couple of parts did attempt escape).
It's now only -3 seconds for four full days of running.
However that is somewhat serendipitous what is really happening is that during my normal work day it is losing about 5 seconds and then gaining back about 8 seconds if left face up on my night stand. I left it pendant up last night as a test, and sure enough it continued to lose.

I haven't had time to make any attempt at adjusting it, and given how well it is doing I may go on to other things first. Although my home-brewed timing machine indicates that it is a bit out of beat also.

TZWS Level 3 was supposed to be about regulation wasn't it?

I do have to open the case however and remove the bit of dust I left on the inside of the crystal. You can't see it normally but it casts a shadow on the dial in direct sun.

Next projects are two Seiko automatics.

Success!
Posted By: Jack Forster
Date: 9/9/2 - 00:54:20
In Response To: A bent barrel bridge. . . (Jack Forster)
Well, the barrel bridge is a fit! The keyless works now are functioning well, and the stem moves smoothly through winding, handsetting, and date setting positions, with all wheels engaging properly. I did have a bad moment with the keyless works when I couldn't get the clutch to engage the winding pinion after getting everything assembled- it was only after considerable head scratching that I realized that I hadn't properly engaged the blasted stop lever with the clutch. The stop lever was stuck between the clutch and winding pinion. This whole experience has really brought home to me just how fine the tolerances are within which a modern movement works- the pocket watches I've been working on seem absolutely colossal by comparison. I imagine a truly complicated watch must take enormous skill to service properly, to say nothing of years of practice.
Whatever our watchmakers are charging, by and large, I must say I think they're earning it.
Now to proceed with reassembly. . .
Jack

Finished Level One Posted By: Mike Beck Date: 1/26/8 - 18:17:37 I was attracted to the TZ Watch School because I'm inherently curious about pretty much everything. Due to the way my brain is wired, I'm able to hyper-focus on a subject until I reach a point of proficiency. I always start with a process of reading/researching (I have a voracious appetite for knowledge) to the point where I feel confident I can bite off some actual hands-on experience. By the time the kit arrived, I had the lessons memorized and had read through all the active (un-archived) messages in the forums. The only thing that did not go according to plan was that I loosened ALL the screws on the wheel bridge during the dexterity lesson. Unfortunately, I had not released all the remaining tension in the mainspring (the watch was not running, so not too much). I assume the upper escape wheel pivot was the first to 'jump' out of it's jewel. The rest of the train proceeded to release what stored energy remained within the mainspring (more than I would have thought). At this point, I was committed to full disassembly. My fear was that I might have damaged one or more pinion leaves or wheel teeth. The thought of a broken or bent pinion was top of mind. Once everything was apart, close inspection revealed no discernable damage--I had lucked out. I was very careful to place all pieces into one of the segmented parts containers--grouping by function as advised. I took my time, observed all the details, and had everything apart within an hour. So far, so good. Before reassembling, I cleaned all but the pallet fork (pallet jewel shellac in particular) and the balance assembly with rubbing alcohol. I'm not the type to put something back together without cleaning first. I did not perform any lubrication, and look forward to another pass at disassembly and reassembly after completing the second course. Somehow, the crown ring ended up in the triangle. I was sure it had made it into the parts container, being very aware of the fact it is not physically a part of either the crown gear or it's screw. I'll be ordering a replacement along with a level two kit. Without the ring, the screw must be loose enough not to bind the movement. So far, the watch appears to be keeping excellent time. Again, I look forward to a proper cleaning and lubrication. I ordered the sapphire crystal case with leather band. I installed with the white dial and straight hands. Pictures will follow. I could not figure out a way to install the dial feet into the holes in the movement. I elected to trim them down to approximately 5MM each, and they rest against the surface of the works side of the movement. I don't know if this is how I was supposed to mount the dial, but so far it appears to be working fine. At 50 years of age, I have been working with my hands for so long, and across so many disciplines (cars, motorcycles, RC airplanes/cars, computers/electronics, etc.), I seem to have the requisite hand-eye coordination and a light touch with the tweezers (no flying parts). If you do not, you should practice the dexterity exercises until you have it down pat. There are no shortcuts to mastering good technique. I found the entire experience to be extremely rewarding. I do not plan to progress past basic maintenance for now. Someday I may invest in a lathe (I have a full size one for physically larger projects). But, for now, I'm very happy with the scope of the online lessons. As others have stated, I would be thrilled to enroll in a level three course if you ever decide to offer one. Before ordering the level two kit, I was wondering if I can substitute a nicer movement for the one in the kit (at an additional incremental cost of course)? See everyone in level two. Hooked, Mike Finished Level One

Posted By: Mike Beck Date: 1/26/8 - 18:17:37

I was attracted to the TZ Watch School because I'm inherently curious about pretty much everything. Due to the way my brain is wired, I'm able to hyper-focus on a subject until I reach a point of proficiency. I always start with a process of reading/researching (I have a voracious appetite for knowledge) to the point where I feel confident I can bite off some actual hands-on experience.

By the time the kit arrived, I had the lessons memorized and had read through all the active (un-archived) messages in the forums. The only thing that did not go according to plan was that I loosened ALL the screws on the wheel bridge during the dexterity lesson. Unfortunately, I had not released all the remaining tension in the mainspring (the watch was not running, so not too much). I assume the upper escape wheel pivot was the first to 'jump' out of it's jewel. The rest of the train proceeded to release what stored energy remained within the mainspring (more than I would have thought).

At this point, I was committed to full disassembly. My fear was that I might have damaged one or more pinion leaves or wheel teeth. The thought of a broken or bent pinion was top of mind. Once everything was apart, close inspection revealed no discernable damage--I had lucked out.

I was very careful to place all pieces into one of the segmented parts containers--grouping by function as advised. I took my time, observed all the details, and had everything apart within an hour. So far, so good.

Before reassembling, I cleaned all but the pallet fork (pallet jewel shellac in particular) and the balance assembly with rubbing alcohol. I'm not the type to put something back together without cleaning first. I did not perform any lubrication, and look forward to another pass at disassembly and reassembly after completing the second course.

Somehow, the crown ring ended up in the triangle. I was sure it had made it into the parts container, being very aware of the fact it is not physically a part of either the crown gear or it's screw. I'll be ordering a replacement along with a level two kit. Without the ring, the screw must be loose enough not to bind the movement.

So far, the watch appears to be keeping excellent time. Again, I look forward to a proper cleaning and lubrication.

I ordered the sapphire crystal case with leather band. I installed with the white dial and straight hands. Pictures will follow. I could not figure out a way to install the dial feet into the holes in the movement. I elected to trim them down to approximately 5MM each, and they rest against the surface of the works side of the movement. I don't know if this is how I was supposed to mount the dial, but so far it appears to be working fine.

At 50 years of age, I have been working with my hands for so long, and across so many disciplines (cars, motorcycles, RC airplanes/cars, computers/electronics, etc.), I seem to have the requisite hand-eye coordination and a light touch with the tweezers (no flying parts). If you do not, you should practice the dexterity exercises until you have it down pat. There are no shortcuts to mastering good technique.

I found the entire experience to be extremely rewarding. I do not plan to progress past basic maintenance for now. Someday I may invest in a lathe (I have a full size one for physically larger projects). But, for now, I'm very happy with the scope of the online lessons. As others have stated, I would be thrilled to enroll in a level three course if you ever decide to offer one.

Before ordering the level two kit, I was wondering if I can substitute a nicer movement for the one in the kit (at an additional incremental cost of course)?

See everyone in level two. Hooked, Mike

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